Organised noise


Another long weekend? Don’t mind if I do. πŸ™‚

This week it’s the birthday of the Ever Lovely Mrs Jones. I have, of course, been shopping in the terawatt range. Mind you, it is probably the closest I get to guilt free retail therapy. I mean, what’s not to like? Well, other than footing the bill. πŸ™‚ You get to peruse the shops, find things your loved one will (will hopefully) enjoy and then get to wrap it all up for the big day. Mrs J’s birthday hint list included some summer clothes, so I was in my element this time around. πŸ™‚

I missed the Blogger Challenge last time, so I’m making the effort not to today. The topic was around music, either a playlist, or a band you love. Music has been a constant in my life and there are tracks – indeed artists – that are linked to parts of my history. I’ve travelled from pop, to rap, to metal, to indie, to alternative metal, to industrial and then through a wild mess of the whole lot before falling back into the pop fold.

That’s not to say I’m not picky πŸ™‚ I like heavy music, but late Metallica leaves me cold – and don’t get me started on hair metal. πŸ™‚ Mind you, considering the number of Girls Aloud albums I own, I am not going to pimp myself as some sort of expert or roll model. I know what I like and that’s as far as it goes.

I am confused over how a person can pick just one musical genre. I remember being at school and someone picking up that I’d bought a dance album – The Shamen, if you’re interested – but mostly I was listening to metal at that point…. and Army of Lovers, but they didn’t know that. Never let it be said that I don’t have a liking for kitsch pop that’s camper than a Brit panto. πŸ™‚ Listening to one thing, it felt a bit limiting, but maybe that was the image people wanted to project, rather than the reality.

Much as I enjoy music, I have no musical ability and those rare forays into the karaoke will act as suitable prosecution. πŸ™‚ But then, I think music can be far too serious; sometimes it’s just fun. It doesn’t have to be deep, or cool, or clever. I think it’s enough if it makes you want to dance or sing along….. unless there’s a dance that goes with it (notable exceptions The Timewarp and at parties, kids going Gangnam Style – which cracks me up).

I still like crossover tracks. Those pieces were an artist takes a new direction, or who fuses things together to make something new. I wonder what direction music will go and it keeps surprising me. That’s not to say it’s all great stuff, but there’s enough variety out there to keep us stocked in ‘choons’ for a while.

Take care,


  1. To derisive responses admittedly, but I regularly own up to my favourite group being the Spice Girls. People can be unkind sometimes. They accuse me of all sorts as a result. Never being trans as a result though. Strange that… :o)

    1. Huzzah and at last, a posted comment. πŸ™‚

      I think, there's a lot of snobbery in music – hell, in many things, for that matter – and I've been guilty of that in the past. I look back at some of the things I thought were great / fab and cringe a bit. But, all part of the growing up process.

      If you like the Spice Girls, good for you. It'd be a dull world if we all listened to Coldplay πŸ˜‰

  2. Clearly we're not going to be agreeing on music very much. Anything that smacks of "mainstream" and "popular", I dislike on principle. Well, okay, not on principle πŸ˜‰ , but I've found through experience that the more popular any music is, the less likely I am to like it, because it's more likely to be derivative, lowest common denominator, devoid of merit crap :p

    So… Pop – only the stuff I liked as a kid really; Rap – just old or leftfield stuff; Metal – basic rule: not if you can tell what the vocalist is saying; Indie – the lowest of the low, absolutely derivative music, absolutely the same now as it was 30+ years ago, take it away; Alternative metal – see "metal"; Industrial – okay, name some names.

    How about jazz, funk, blues, folk, world, country, punk, new wave, art rock, noise, concrΓͺte, improv, classical, electronica, techno, drum and bass, dubstep…? πŸ™‚

    1. Possibly not πŸ˜‰ I don't mind mainstream or popular. I used to dislike that, but then I think it may have been that I disliked it, not because it was popular, but because I didn't like a lot of it. Now, I look by and just listen to what I like. Mrs J brings home more tunes, as she listens to the radio more than I do. If the radio's on in my car, it'll be Radio 4.

      Indie? Some good, some bad. Too much hype I think, but that's the media, not the bands at fault…. well, except the bands who believe their own hype. I think there are phases within that 'genre', which is a bit odd because early indie isn't The Smiths, which isn't Madchester, which isn't Crossover, which isn't Carter USM, which isn't BritPop… which, I hope, means we don't have to mention Oasis. Which, while a lot of folk like them, I don't think they're Indie. πŸ™‚

      Jazz? Just no.
      Blues. Nope…. unless it's from The Blues Brothers. πŸ™‚
      Folk: closest I got was some Crusty rock in the 90s and some local gigs.
      World: Get. Out. πŸ™‚
      Country: I can tolerate Blue Grass, but most of it leaves me cold…. sure, I can respect the effort and talent that goes in, but it's not for me.
      Punk: Missed this. πŸ˜‰ Sort of caught the American New Wave (Green Day et al) but only via the media, when I'd sort have moved on.
      Drum & Bass: Nope. Dance, so missed that.
      Dubstep: Only heard a few 'comedy' tracks. WHEEE whump-whump-wh-whump. WEEE πŸ™‚

      Industrial? NIN (natch), Ministry, FrontLine Assembly, ThrillKillKult, Die Krupps and Skinny Puppy's "Doubting Thomas."

  3. πŸ™‚ I was just going to comment the exact opposite of jonathan. Well, not quite – I don't like pop on principle (in fact I dislike a lot of it – just not on principle!), but I don't get people who say that music is only good when other people don't like it. I have a few friends who do this and I could never get it. Even unpopular bands who they like are dropped like a stone as soon as they get any recognition.

    Personally, derivative doesn't bother me, it's sounding good that is my criteria. I like the brat pack from the 50's, Rammstein (sorry if I spelt it wrong!) Muse, Chicane, Alanis, James, Massive Attack, Jewel and lots of stuff in between. In fact the only two things that I generally don't like are modern R&B (real Rhythm and Blues on the other hand…) and hard core rave. Oh, and Dutch life music – that is just plain awful!)

    I love having the USB in the car on random and going from Frankie to Beethoven, to Guns'N'Roses to The Beatles to who knows what!

    1. "I have a few friends who do this and I could never get it. Even unpopular bands who they like are dropped like a stone as soon as they get any recognition." β€” This is usually to do with liking to be surprised by music. Once something gets popular, it's usually copied endlessly (so that it becomes less and less surprising) and watered down (to make it palatable to a larger audience). Both of which lead to it being stripped of any originality it once had. Obviously, originality isn't everything to everyone, but it's an important factor to some of us.

      As to the stuff you actually mention, I like some of it… rat pack from the 50's (Frank Sinatra anyway) Massive Attack, modern R&B (I like a bit of this, early LPs by Erykah Badu, Lauryn Hill, and such), real Rhythm and Blues (much more!), hardcore rave (lots of this!), Beethoven, The Beatles…

      As for Dutch life music – I don't know what this is :/

    2. Who said – "Ninety percent of everything is crud"? πŸ™‚ Works for music as well as books. Derivative? Hmm. Well, dare I say, just because you are first, doesn't mean you necessarily get it 100%. Sometimes, those early pioneers carve out their mark and then another band drops in and the music community 'get it'. Did you watch BBC4's Synth Britannia on YouTube? Some classic examples in there.

      Rammstein FTW! Lovely on the school run. πŸ˜€

    3. Did you watch BBC4's Synth Britannia on YouTube? Some classic examples in there.

      No, I watched it on BBC4 πŸ˜‰ . Good programme. For me it was all about the first half, the musical pioneers. I still have all those records. But I never could abide synth pop. Yes, it was a good point about how they revolutionized musical technology in the mainstream. But they used it to make terrible, terrible music :p

    4. There was an element of nostalgia – although a lot of it was before I was really listening to music. That aside, I enjoyed learning about how the genre evolved and that movement from experimental to breakthrough and into mainstream. What really fascinates me is looking at how it all started and then how… [ tendrils? Yeah, that'll do ] tendrils slip into other genres and spark new ones. Vince Clarke can certainly craft a tune πŸ˜‰

  4. Like the OP, I have somewhat diverse tastes in music, although I probably spend most of my time listening to metal. I've a particular fondness for '90s death metal, mainly because it comes across as a lot more original than much of the stuff which followed it in that genre.

    I like heavy music, but late Metallica leaves me cold – and don't get me started on hair metal.

    Ha! That's just like me! Re Metallica I thought their first album, 'Kill 'Em All', was pretty good (though far from their best); the next three absolutely brilliant (so much so that to this day I can't pick my favourite among them); their "black" album decent enough, if not up to the standard of the albums that preceded it (generally the songs on that one I like are the ones that weren't played to death on commercial radio (cough cough Nothing Else Matters cough cough)); and everything since then pretty much forgettable. Morbid (if not downright masochistic) curiosity has me tempted to check out 'Lulu' sometime, though, simply because I've heard it's awesomely bad!

    As for hair metal, while I liked the whole glam image of bands in that genre (indeed, those bands were probably the closest thing I had to role models as a teenage crossdresser!), I found the music they produced pretty "meh" for the most part. Funnily enough, given how they seemed to go out of their way to look as girly as possible (and even, in the case of groups like Cinderella, give themselves girly names), some of their biggest fans down here were bogans (sort of the Australian equivalent to chavs)!

    […]and Army of Lovers, but they didn't know that. Never let it be said that I don't have a liking for kitsch pop that's camper than a Brit panto.

    Ha ha. I've got an Army of Lovers album myself ('Massive Luxury Overdose') – it's great stuff! I've a bit of a weakness for pop myself, having quite a few Eurovision compilation albums in my CD collection, among other offerings from this genre. I also had a Betty Boo album, way back in the early '90s, though have sadly since misplaced this. She was sort of pop, wasn't she?

    1. EuroVision is on again soon, so I shall enjoy watching that, cackling madly at the Facebook feed and having a true irony overdose.

      So a bogan's a chav? Thanks for the translation! πŸ™‚

      I wonder if Betty Boo will come back and do a gangsta album? πŸ™‚ Bless her, she was so sweet and her rap voice (Yank) was so different from her English accent. Quite a jump, but I love that. I might just go dig out some Army of Lovers and Boo on YouTube… assuming my brain hasn't lied to me and somethings are best left in the past! πŸ™‚

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